tiger fan dan, you keep saying he is more than just a great golfer......but in what way?

ziggy125:

tiger fan dan, you keep saying he is more than just a great golfer......but in what way?

... In the ways that I have repeatedly mentioned, in the ways that he is a role model and hero to many. That makes him more than just a great golfer, he is probably other things aswell when you consider his unfluence commercially but those were the things that came to mind.

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Dan

yes i know you said he's a role model and hero.......i agreed with that if you look at my earlier posts......but he's only a role model and hero to those who play golf!!!!!!!!!! outside of this sport nobody really cares.....which is the same for many other sports..... also every other professional golfer is a role model and hero to their fans not just tiger.....i thought you meant he was more just a hero and role model.

Argh, the fact that hes a role model just to people that play golf doesn't mean hes not a role model. You said he was a great golfer and thats it, I disagreed with that. Also what Tiger does gets attention outside of the sport of golf.

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Dan

i'm sure many of the ten million young people that have been helped by the tiger woods foundation consider him a hero and role model, and it has nothing to do with the fact he plays golf.

You don't have to play golf to think of Tiger as a role model.  I agree with an article by Marshall Frank regarding Tiger...

"It is not just his 65 tour victories (thus far) or the fourteen major championships that elevate him so far above his peers, he brings out the best in all of us. His attention to perfection, his uncanny concentration and his work ethic provide one of the best role models for kids that has come along in decades. He is not only respected by fellow athletes, they are in awe of him.

There are no super market tabloid stories about Tiger Woods, because his private life is just that: private. He does not use his fame as a political soapbox. There are no studs through his nose, no dyed hair, no flash, no babes on his arm, and no criticism of others to make himself look better..."

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twitb71:

it has nothing to do with the fact he plays golf.

 

oh ok, sorry i forgot Tiger Woods was a multi millionaire before he started playing golf..

scrappy1:

 no dyed hair

well...

Thanks for pic from the early 2000's....The article didn't say that he has never dyed his hair.  The article said that there are no studs through is nose, dyed hair, etc....in reference to present day - 2008. 

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ziggy125:

oh ok, sorry i forgot Tiger Woods was a multi millionaire before he started playing golf..

i guess i've lost you. i don't see the connection between what i was talking about and the fact that tiger's a multi-millionaire.

scrappy1:

Thanks for pic from the early 2000's....The article didn't say that he has never dyed his hair.  The article said that there are no studs through is nose, dyed hair, etc....in reference to present day - 2008. 

thanks for the clarification. i wasn't trying to refute the article, i just happened to think about it and posted it.

i'm sure many of the ten million young people that have been helped by the tiger woods foundation consider him a hero and role model, and it has nothing to do with the fact he plays golf.

How in the world are these numbers being compiled?  I find it hard to believe his foundation has directly helped 10 million people.  I guess if you count building driving ranges in distressed areas and then the people who use them, we could get to 10 million....I've used the facility at Belle Isle in Detroit (BEAUTIFUL range, btw) so one could count me...IF...that's the way the numbers are being compiled. 

I'm with Charles Barkley when he says, don't consider athletes role models.  Too many young men and now women aspire to be professional athletes, when getting to the professional ranks is literally like hitting the lottery.  Many are qualified but only a few lucky ones get the opportunity. 

I also agree with LeonardWoods - TW is the greatest golfer on the planet - and that's all.  He's a good guy who leads a clean life - like almost all the other folk on the planet...that part does not make him stand out.  His millions and glamourous lifestyle is what makes him stand out and I would not want my son to get caught up in such things....(if I had a son).

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Ms. M.
Always Ready For Golf!!!

Ms M:

How in the world are these numbers being compiled?  I find it hard to believe his foundation has directly helped 10 million people.  I guess if you count building driving ranges in distressed areas and then the people who use them, we could get to 10 million....I've used the facility at Belle Isle in Detroit (BEAUTIFUL range, btw) so one could count me...IF...that's the way the numbers are being compiled. 

I'm with Charles Barkley when he says, don't consider athletes role models.  Too many young men and now women aspire to be professional athletes, when getting to the professional ranks is literally like hitting the lottery.  Many are qualified but only a few lucky ones get the opportunity. 

I also agree with LeonardWoods - TW is the greatest golfer on the planet - and that's all.  He's a good guy who leads a clean life - like almost all the other folk on the planet...that part does not make him stand out.  His millions and glamourous lifestyle is what makes him stand out and I would not want my son to get caught up in such things....(if I had a son).

however the number has been compiled, the fact is tiger believes that's how many people have been helped by his foundation. he believes it to be a significant work.

i agree that every athlete is not a role model, but there are athletes who are. i believe tiger to be a role model. its hard for me to separate the fact he's a good guy who leads a clean life amist all the other stuff he deals with, including what it takes to be the best golfer on the planet. i can't compartmentalize it like you and lw can.

there will be a day when tiger's no longer the best golfer on the planet. does he then stop becoming an is, and then becomes a was? i'm thinking about jack nicklaus and his memorial tournament for example. he no longer plays the tournament competitively, but still plays the pro-ams. he talks about if you want to see him shoot 80, but the fact is he still gets out there because people want to see him, for what he's done for the game of golf. he's also a good role model in terms of the family. his tournament does a lot for the community as well.

tiger may very well turn his back on the game when all is said and done, when he's accomplished what he wants to accomplish, and go out on top. then he will be a was. the people that think he's but the world's greatest golfer will always be right. then i would also agree. today, i agree he's more than that.

I don't think there is any need for anyone else to bring back the "If he wasn't a golfer he wouldn't be any of those other things," argument, because I fully understand that and agree with it. The point is, that he is the best golfer in the world but like mentioned above his influence extends to areas well outside golf. Tiger is a role model and hero to people in a way that Mickelson or Garcia are not. Tiger is a sporting icon as well and of course he has his foundation which is once again another role he plays aside from being a great golfer.

Yes, he has the opportunity and is recognised for these things because he is the best golfer in the world, but it doesn't mean that you can take them away from him.

I would just like to point out how this discussion started with ziggy saying "Tiger is just a great golfer and thats it." In my opinion that could not be further from the truth, as the whole point about Tiger is that he isn't just a great golfer, hes a lot more to a lot of people.

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Dan

Twitb, i was simply stating the fact that Tigers finance and status was earned through golf, and his foundation wouldn't have ever happened had it not been for golf, so you cannot say it has nothing to do with golf, thats it..........and on that note i retire from this post.......i'm getting dizzy going around in circles