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Feeling of dropping the club into the slot position

Last post 07-25-2008, 7:13 AM by melbanuelos. 11 replies.
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  •  02-02-2005, 6:19 AM 11985

    Feeling of dropping the club into the slot position

    I understand the downswing to be initiated with the following actions:

    1. slight shift towards the target while withholding the shoulder turn
    2. Drop your hands and rotate hips, then shoulders to release club

    Though I understand the sequence of events, I can't get the "feel" of this sequence especially with the driver. I know I'm not doing this sequence because I can feel my club come over the top from an out to in path which forces me to lift up. Any suggestion on getting the correct feel of dropping the club into the slot?

    Thanks,
    Vinh
  •  02-02-2005, 8:19 AM 12003 in reply to 11985

    I am very timidly posting this suggestion as my golf is extremely poor. however, i do have a similar problem and at a golf clinic recently the pro had us all swinging with our driver cover tucked under our right arm pit. it seemed to really help my elbow stay in the right place and prevented much 'out to in' swing. Try it, it may help you.
    kongo
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  •  02-02-2005, 1:58 PM 12004 in reply to 11985

    One tought that really helped me was to think and feel as if I were swinging the butt of the club first. The feel I mean here is to point the end of your club at the back inside quarter (towards you) of the ball while coming down with the club or think of it as pointing the back of your left hand.

    For more info on this try to find articles that say something like this:

    Swing the handle, hit it with the butt... etc.

    I would find them for you but I'm short on time right now, if I come accross them later I'll post 'em here.
    If you want to improve be content to be called foolish and stupid.
  •  02-04-2005, 1:48 AM 12005 in reply to 11985

    Thanks Bruny and Congo. I will try both suggestions.
  •  04-29-2005, 3:44 AM 12016 in reply to 11985

    If you are coming up on it, I suggest that you should swing with you feet together (it is a drill) so you can stop lifting up. Then take your normal stance, and "pump it" 2 times then hit. Repeat, repeat, and repeat!!!
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  •  05-02-2005, 8:02 AM 12017 in reply to 11985

    Those are some good suggestions. I also have tried that head cover under the left arm pit drill years ago. It works.

    Some other one's I'd suggest...these are mainly to fight a slice...

    One drill) Take the driver and swing it chest high, like a baseball bat. As you would hit a baseball, concentrate on releasing the club through impact(the air in the case)...with the right forearm and wrist noticeably turning over the club. Do that drill about a dozen times. Then go ahead set up and hit a few.

    Another drill) This is basically for any club in the bag. Start out with a iron. Address the ball normally. Then place your right foot close to your left foot and pull it(right foot) back about a couple of feet, making it a very closed, narrow stance. If you're a lefty the opposite obviously applies. Aim the club face at your target. It will force you to make an inside out swing, hopefully imparting a draw on your shots in time.

    Again, repetition is the key here. Do them a lot.

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  •  06-17-2005, 12:23 AM 12041 in reply to 11985

    Thanks DTM3 and Justin for the tip...I will give it a shot.

    Vinh
  •  07-19-2005, 6:24 PM 12077 in reply to 11985

    Re: Feeling of dropping the club into the slot position

    vinh_orlando]I
    I understand the downswing to be initiated with the following actions:

    1. slight shift towards the target while withholding the shoulder turn
    2. Drop your hands and rotate hips, then shoulders to release club

    Though I understand the sequence of events, I can't get the "feel" of this sequence especially with the driver. I know I'm not doing this sequence because I can feel my club come over the top from an out to in path which forces me to lift up. Any suggestion on getting the correct feel of dropping the club into the slot?

    Thanks,
    Vinh


    It sounds like you're initiating your downswing with your right hand. To get that inside motion your looking for, try hitting a few shots with only your left hand on the club. The left hand should be initiating your downswing, and your right hand is only along for the ride. Try hitting some chip with only your left hand to get a feel for that motion.
  •  07-31-2005, 2:39 PM 12092 in reply to 11985

    i have one thought and suggestion for you my friend
    perhaps you may be bending too far forward at the waist on setup
    i found i was doing that myself when i videod my swing and could see an over the top move co-existing with the inability to get my hands back to the setup position at impact. (sending the ball way to the right)
    i tried standing a little more upright and although it feels a little weird at first, i seem to have a much smoother swing now and more of a power fade leaning towards a draw. which is what a naturally right handed player should produce. just a suggestion you may try at the range.
    i have always stayed away from swing tweaks on the course because they can make a bad round get even worse and mentally wear you down.

    billy
    IT'S THE ONE GOOD SHOT YOU MADE IN THE ROUND WHICH KEEPS YOU COMING BACK FOR MORE
  •  08-08-2005, 12:38 AM 12112 in reply to 11985

    Swing out at 1 o'clock
  •  09-02-2005, 3:45 AM 12243 in reply to 11985

    This year i overhauled my swing quite a bit and i can say i enjoy the changes as i have dropped my handicap this season from a 11 to a 3
    Now i swing more of a one plane, on the takeaway i feel as though my left arm is taped to my chest and this tends to bring the club in a more inside path, when the club is at the top of the backswing, my left arm will run right across my shoulders (looking from the back). When i am in this position all i have to do is rotate my hips to the right and keep my shoulders hands and arms in the same position, you will see that your shoulders arms hands are in a perfect inside to out swing path, from here you left your shoulders arms and hands take over, in that order
  •  07-25-2008, 7:13 AM 311693 in reply to 11985

    Re: Feeling of dropping the club into the slot position

    Yo Vinh,

    Believe me when I say you won't feel a thing working unless you are able to brace the load of your back swing properly on the inside of your right foot and right side, (assuming you are a right handed golfer).  If you are loaded correctly, your right knee stays flexed an stable throughout your backswing which should make you feel a little pinch or a little stress on the outside of your right hip.  You should also feel the weight shift to the inside of your right foot and don't let the weight of your backswing shift to the outside of your right foot.  Think of a right handed pitcher in baseball...He will load his right leg (keeps it flexed) on the whined up and it unflexes, or unwhinds, all by itself when he starts the throwing motion propelling his weight into his left side creating torque for power.  In golf it relates to whining your backswing onto your flexed and very stable right leg, and as soon as you start the downswing, (whether with your arms or shoulders or legs), your right leg will whip your weight to the left side thus giving you enough time to deliver the club properly to the ball.  Try it along with an arched back which means sticking your butt out more and sticking your chest out more.  Also keep the weight on the front half of your feet and don't let your weight shift to the back of your feet (heels) throughout the swing.    Good luck and start pounding it. If you have any doubts, next time you see a tournament on tv, pay attention to all the golfers right leg throughout the swing.  they have it flexed and loaded through out the backswing.

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